ronald reagan and president carter. and for that one they offered me a seat in the hall and i took it and it turned out to be the worst place in the world to watch a presidential debate because everyone in america of course is watching it on tv and you get a different perspective in the hall. it's not -- in many events it's great to be inside where it's actually happening. i think for a journalist that's not the case for these presidential debates. every debate since then i've covered off tv. i'll be in the media filing center watching those tv screens and frantically trying to meet my first deadline when it comes up and wanting to see the debate just as american voters will be seeing it. >> when is the first time you have to file tonight? >> sadly the first time i have to file tonight is 9:35. so that will be a pretty tentative story because the debate will have just begun. and so -- but then i have another hour before my second edition deadline so that story should be able to be a little more conclusive. >> we have a